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honez



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A really w-i-d-e angle view of the business end of a vintage 1950's Humber Super Snipe.
They're not nearly as "wheel-archy" and low-headroom as it looks, but they should be : -)
Some cloning on one side of the car to remove another show vehicle and a cut and paste job on one wheel arch/ mirroring it off the other side to get rid of glare and unwanted/unfixable reflections.
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richingr

Registered: October 2010
Posts: 1,513
Mon March 28, 2011 12:58pm

Love this one Honez i remember my Dad Showing me a picture of one as im not old enough to remember these old cars Wink
You must have spent a lot of time cleaning it up.
Kev

Registered: February 2008
Posts: 2,722
Mon March 28, 2011 1:05pm

The car looks good, altho that curved background horizon grass level is kinda doing my brain in a bit...I think it might be better to actually replace the lawn setting with a wonderful coloured background (maybe) to contrast offset the motor.
I can also detect a few "smoothies" in the grass region where you've either cloned-touchup or combined images...it's not easy noticable...so I wouldn't worry about it...as I'm pix-peeping. I'm curious tho...how do these types of images print out...say larg-ish, like 24 x 18 size.?
Beth

Registered: May 2010
Posts: 1,606
Mon March 28, 2011 9:05pm

I like the way it turned out. The extreme stretching of the side sort of pulls your eyes right to the car. It's like "look at me - I'm what this photo is all about" Even the other cars in the background don't seem to distract that much, simply because the main subject is so bold. I like it a lot.
honez

Registered: August 2008
Posts: 708
Tue March 29, 2011 5:39am

Thanks guys and gals.
I see the spot you're talking about Kev and will work on that.
The horizon "curve" is probably more of an artefect of the natural slope of the land there as it runs uphill to the left, but I'll see what I can do there too. I might post up the original raw, in case anyone's interested as an attachment here.
honez

Registered: August 2008
Posts: 708
Wed March 30, 2011 12:45pm

Here's the original...
(looks like you were right on the slope up after all Kev)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v655/idrinkxxxx/IMG_4132.jpg
Kev

Registered: February 2008
Posts: 2,722
Wed March 30, 2011 1:41pm

Yeah, definitely got an inverted uphil land run there....must be a southern hemipshere thang...bit like your water going down the sink the 'other way round' etc Wink
Beth

Registered: May 2010
Posts: 1,606
Wed March 30, 2011 10:07pm

Coming back to say - Honez- After looking at the original file - you are amazing! Makes me appreciate the work you must put into all these. Congrats on a job well done!
Clem

Registered: February 2011
Posts: 662
Wed March 30, 2011 11:36pm

Agreed... the before and after is quite remarkable. Can I send all my photos to you for "touch up"? Wink
richingr

Registered: October 2010
Posts: 1,513
Thu March 31, 2011 2:28am

Great job Honez.How long did that take you to do.???
Clem

Registered: February 2011
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Thu March 31, 2011 2:56am

Note to self... Don't buy anything from Honez based on a photograph. Smile
honez

Registered: August 2008
Posts: 708
Thu March 31, 2011 4:22am

Thanks guys,
the tricky (well, most time consuming rather than tricky) part is masking the main subject. I'm a lot more adept at that than I used to be. This would have taken about 30-40 mins to get it properly masked. Once that's done it's pretty much standard cloning and post-work on the background. In this case I used a combination of HDR for the car and the background is one of the normal exposed shots.
The more I look at this the worse the cloning on the left side of the image looks. It doesn't look as bad in my full-sized original as it does on the reduced sized JPEGs but it's still jarring my eyes. I'm going to have to redo it.
All up this image would have taken between an hour to an hour and a half, but definitely less than two hours to do, which includes...
RAW cleanup for the 3 source images (exposure, noise/sharpening and lens correction) and aligning them in CS5. Importing them into Photomatix, tonemapping and saving the tonemapped HDR image. Stacking and aligning the HDR and original EV 0 image in CS5, masking the car so it overlays the original EV 0 image. Then I cloned the background, fixed curves, levels, colour, noise and straightened. I cut out the passenger side wheel arch, mirrored it, overlayed onto the driver side corrected the perspective a bit for a good fit and masked and blended the edges. Then I added a bit more lens distortion and cropped to size.
Sounds like a lot, but it's the edge masking at 100% (and you've really gotta do the pixel peeping to get it right) that takes the time and a steady hand.
This post is probably way on the side of overkill, but seeing as we're all here to learn and share, I thought it someone might find it interesting.
Cheers
h
meltimtiman

Registered: May 2010
Posts: 391
Thu March 31, 2011 8:36am

Looking at the "before" and "after" photos, I am awed. Yup it may take you 30-40 minutes to put the finished product together but my question, honez, is, how long did it take you to learn all the procedures and workflow to come up with such amazing output. And from the way the discussion is going, I dont think this isn't finished yet. Now I understand why advertising agencies charge so much on "computer time" just to edit a photo of a frying pan or a dutch oven.


Most of the workflow done here like cutting, overlaying, mirroring, I havent tried them yet. I'd rather ride my mountain bike and go uphill. Amazing work here, honez. Just amazing
richingr

Registered: October 2010
Posts: 1,513
Thu March 31, 2011 11:11am

Thanks very much for the in depth explaination on how the picture was made up.I have done most of the procedures before but find lately i have not got the patience to sit and do it these days.So glad you have as love seeing these type pictures.one more question do you use a graphics tablet or just mouse.Oh and if you revisit the picture.Clone out the pole in the centre of the car roof Smile
Kev

Registered: February 2008
Posts: 2,722
Thu March 31, 2011 11:19am

Honez, you pretty much apply your workflow to your car images....in the same manner as I do my still-life shots...there's a definite parallel between the two.


Like-wise, for me...an image will take at least 2-3 hours of continuous work, often longer. As you say, the subject masking is the main task. I also normally draw the "selection" at about 200% (sometimes higher) to get it just right. These days I mostly use the pen tool...which I find to work extremely well once one gets the hang of it.

 
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